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[ga-roots] [Fwd: Fwd: nos voro illos que offendo]
All,
FYI IMPORTANT: Read this carefully and pass it on...
It is pretty self explanitory....
--
Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 118k members strong!)
CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
Contact Number: 972-447-1800 x1894 or 214-244-4827
Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208
I knew you'd want to know about this. I'm trying to solve the problem for
these users - but this is what happens when people who don't know what
their up to get in control of the dns.
regards
joe
>Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 12:29:42 -0400
>To: bakerk@diebold.com
>From: "dot.GOD Billing Services" <billing@pccf.net>
>Subject: nos voro illos que offendo
>Cc: john@johnberryhill.com, "Bradley D. Thornton" <bthornton@jointtech.com>,
> "Leah Gallegos, JandL" <jandl@jandl.com>,
> "John Palmer. JP" <jp@adns.net>, "Roeland Meyer" <rmeyer@mhsc.com>,
> "Marc Schneiders" <marc@schneiders.org>,
> "Karl Auerbach" <karl@CAVEBEAR.COM>,
> "Dena Whitebirch" <shore@quasar.net>, "Kristy McKee"
> <k@widgital.com>,
> "Karl E. Peters, DNS" <bridge@DARIENTEL.NET>, baptista@pccf.net,
> billing@pccf.net
>
>Hi Kevin:
>
>First a little witness administration is required. All of the ORSC reps
>being Richard Sexton and Einar Stefferud have been removed from the
>distribution list as per their request. Mr. John Berryhill solicitor (or
>it that lawyer) to Mr. Stefferud and the ORSC is still with us - so he can
>monitor the show for them. Gene Marsh has also choosen to leave along
>with Bruce James, Michael Froomkin, Milton Mueller and Ray Fassett.
>
>Second Mr. Marsh and a number of other people have given us their
>opinions. However I have the pleasure of reviewing my log files and
>absolutely no one who gave their opinion ever bothered to download the
>logs. So these opinions are in my opinion unqualified.
>
>I did however have a log entry from Diebold which was malformed.
>
>204.151.249.21 - - [05/Jun/2001:14:11:39 -0400] "GET
>/correspondence/committee/tcpdump/205.189.73-tc HTTP/1.0" 404 309
>207.54.138.2 - - [06/Jun/2001:05:52:07 -0400] "GET
>/correspondence/committee/tcpdump/205.189.73-tc HTTP/1.0" 404 309
>207.54.138.2 - - [06/Jun/2001:06:07:39 -0400] "GET
>/correspondence/committee/tcpdump/205.189.73-tc HTTP/1.0" 404 309
>
>The first attempt is diebold - the second and third attempt from
>207.54.138.2 is someone in euclid ohio. If diebold wants to see the file
>they have to put in the full URL. Obviously someone has cut and pasted
>the data into their browser incorrectly.
>
>Here it is again - THIS IS LARGE 3+ meg files - so don't download them
>unless your sure you want to view whats in them.
>
>http://www.pccf.net/correspondence/committee/tcpdump/205.189.73-tcpdump-jun-1.txt.gz
>
>http://www.pccf.net/correspondence/committee/tcpdump/205.189.73-tcpdump-jun-2_d1.txt.gz
>
>Now let's get down to the meat and potatoes of what's happening here and
>let's see if I can communicate the full impact of this as well as focus us
>on the legal liability issues. In order to do this I think it best we
>first examine my correspondence to Diebold dated January 16th, 2001.
>
>http://www.pccf.net/correspondence/committee/Jan-16-2001.htm
>
>The following paragraph is critical "In short, I hope I have made it clear
>that we are the landlords in this and Diebold is the tenant. If you do not
>like the neighborhood, you have the right to give us notice and have 90
>days to find a new home."
>
>Now that we understand Planet Communications & Computing Facilities
>position we can move on to the issue. And instead of explaining technical
>issues by means of technical language - I will instead translate this
>incident to more human readable language and a few real life examples.
>
>A root server - any root server - has always been considered a permanent
>fixture on the internet. Or at the very least a long term
>committment. Those are the technical rules. By their very nature turning
>off a root server does not turn off the service. The DNS is robust enough
>to overcome that little problem.
>
>So now lets apply some human concepts to this. An arpa - or a sequence of
>arpas numbers (internet protocol addresses) are like an apartment
>complex. And arpa 205.189.73.10 (formerly ns1.diebold.net) and
>205.189.73.102 (formerly ns2.vrx.net) can by default of this example be
>considered apartment units within the apartment complex.
>
>So with these examples in mind we can now examine what happened.
>
>This past Friday as the landlords representative I entered the apartment
>units which have been used as root servers. And what to my amazement did
>I find but units full of Pink Bunnys doing what Pink Bunnys do best -
>multiply. Here I am with new tennants waiting to use my services and I
>have apartment units full of pink bunnys. The Pink Bunnys in this case
>are human or machine users/daemons.
>
>Now - I have some options here. We are landlord, we are in control. We
>have the option of suing Diebold. That would in my opinion be a complete
>waste of time. So that option is dismissed. We can also ask Diebold to
>remove the bunnies - or alternatively send all bunnies back to Diebold
>express post collect. We can also make a deal with Diebold and arrange a
>financial settlement - but i'm not interested in that at all. We never
>want anything to do with them again - period.
>
>With Diebolds assistance I feel we can manage this problem
>proactively. As I said if Diebold wishes to provide a non disclosure
>statement to me regarding the users confidentiality I can provide them
>with the logs and associated arpa numbers the queries are originating from
>and diebold can find out who is at the other end, call them on the
>telephone, or fax, or write some email and notify them of what they should
>do to switch root service providers. That will reduce the impact to the
>end users when I close the root. I think this would be a prudent move. I
>have not examined the ip addresses in the logs closely but I have seen
>some isp's in the list.
>
>One in California serves Northern California and San Diego County with
>additional pops in Southern California and Nationwide. And each DNS ip
>used by these people is served now by us. So one call to the dns admin
>there will avoid pain in suffering for I'm sure many thousands of users.
>
>Diebold has the necessary resources too in which to solve this
>problem. They have the manpower, they have the telephones, they have the
>time and they have the money to accomplish this.
>
>Now, let us examine Liability. I am in control of a root. This means I
>control the dot ".". I have been placed in a position of absolute
>authority and trust. And this has occurred without my or PCCF's
>permission. But I now control everything these Pink Bunnys see. I am the
>start of authority for all questions and answers dealing with name to
>address translation all of them. I control the horizontal - I control the
>vertical - I am both the alpha and the omega. And I think that's scary -
>don't you?
>
>Example. What if I was a nasty little pimply faced hacker. Well ... I
>could have a bit of fun with this while at the same time causing a great
>deal of financial destruction and doom to ecommerce sites. The
>possibilities of my power are endless. I could study the logs and examine
>where the users bank. It would be a simple proceedure to then access
>those banking institutions - replicate their web sites, redirect the users
>to fake web sites and then proceed to collect their login names and passwords.
>
>This is only one example out of I'm sure thousands. But I think this one
>example properly clarifies the potential danger, liability and negligence here.
>
>This is why I keep harping on and on about running root servers on
>captured arpa infrastructure. If you don't control the infrastructure you
>control nothing. That's why I find the Alternic and OpenNic to be bad
>root service providers. They run most of their infrastructure on @Home
>arpas - so the next person who gets the IP is GOD and that's not a good
>thing when your running a trusted service.
>
>Now once again I want to make it clear that Diebold has the power to make
>this all go away for me. I want them to remove their PINK BUNNYS pronto
>and take advantage of my offer. If we work together this collission will
>be less painful - and if we don't - well it's time for more human examples.
>
>It is my intention regardless of Diebolds decision to null this
>root. Technically a root is a permanent fixture. But I have developed an
>experimental procedure which will clear both roots of the pink diebold
>bunnys. And Diebold can also assist in lessoning the impact or potential
>damage resulting from the proceedure. They have the resources.
>
>What I propose can be explained in abstract terms. The internet is like
>an infinately expandable universe with many points of light moving at
>light speed from star to star. Infinate space with infinate points. I
>propose to collapse all points to one point where the user will find a
>stop sign saying - sorry, but you have been evicted.
>
>Now let's use human variables in explaining this. We'll use Mr. O'Dell as
>an example. Let us imagine that Mr. O'Dell is one of the Pink
>Bunnys. And he's driving in his limousine to the next takeover
>battle. Everything is going fine - he's on the information superhighway -
>he's travelling at high speed and has plenty of time to make this critical
>meetings. All is well.
>
>Suddenly the highway begins to disappear. It dims. The light begins to
>fad. The superhighway starts filling up with pot holes. The asphalt
>becomes a gravel lane. Mr. O'Dell starts to apply the break. What going
>on he screams. The lane becomes a dusty dirty path. Mr. O'Dells royals
>royce is bouncing and rocking trying to adjust to these fantastic changes
>in speed and scenery.
>
>Then suddenly - up ahead - he sees a STOP SIGN. The road has come to an
>end. And next to the stop sign we have a man ... holding an apple ... his
>name is Joe Baptista .. and he begins to speak ...
>
>What I've left out here in this example is that Mr. O'Dell is not the only
>pink bunny on this dirt path - there are thousands of bunny's about to hit
>that same stop sign all at the same time.
>
>Now if that does not scare the living hell out of all of you - I really
>don't know what will.
>
>As I have said - Diebold has the power and the resources to effectively
>move these users and manage them off our arpas. This is their mistake and
>they will take responsibility for it.
>
>And we are willing to provide complete disclosure in assisting them in
>their undertaking. I however will not - shall not tolerate any
>interference by lawyers, judges, or other sorted idiots. If the landlord
>- i.e. PCCF is served any process, if the landlord even gets one call from
>a lawyer, then I promisse you that all the pink bunnys will be evicted on
>short notice - collect - which in this case takes 10 seconds and the arpas
>will be moved out of judicial jurisdiction.
>
>I will not tolerate any fun and games in this. I will not have our
>valuable resources encumbered by judicial process and held ransom by the
>fools who occupy the legal profession.
>
>So please advise Diebold that I will not tolerate any sillyness. But I
>will bend over backwards to help them solve this problem - which simply
>amounts to providing them with disclosure. And that's all they need to
>make sure these pink bunnys don't end up on my dirty road.
>
>Now I'm not going to bother writing Mr. Odell. I do remind you that I
>have yet to get the disclosure I required from him in my letter of May
>29th, 2001 correspondence.
>
>And I want an answer before the week is out. I currently have a few new
>tenants to move in - and they can't as long as your pink bunnys are there
>hopping all over the complex. Also PCCF (the association) is in the
>process of transferring it's assets to PCCF (the corporation) and I can
>not transfer these assets until the existing pink bunny liability is
>cleared up - and that's holding us up. So I'm not going to wait forever
>and I'm not going to play Diebold pass the buck to the subordinates
>game. If Mr. O'Dell feels co-operation is a good thing - then he can call
>me himself.
>
>At this time I am building the STOP SIGN and once it's done I'm giving 48
>hours notice to the community before I press the button. So let's not
>play the ORSC game of doing tomorrow what one can do today. If Diebold is
>willing to work with me we will build the schedule together. If not - I
>only have to say I'm an industrious worker and i'll have the problem fixed
>shortly.
>
>Regards
>Joe
>
>
>
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