RE: [ga-roots] Jon Postel

[Simon Higgs <simon@higgs.com>]

At 08:09 AM 5/25/01 -0700, Josh Elliott wrote:

Who all worked for the IANA with Jon? As I understand it, it was a four 
person task with 0.25 person budget.

Also, how did it change after Jon died?

>Patrick,
>
>There are a few details I would dispute, but the only real important one is
>that IANA only existed until late 1998, which is entirely incorrect.  The
>IANA still exists today under ICANN management, and before ICANN took
>control contractually for IANA, it still operated without the direction of
>Jon Postel in late 1998.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Josh (former IANA Administrator)
>
>Josh Elliott, President & CEO
>Basic Fusion, Inc.
>
>josh@basicfusion.com
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-ga-roots@dnso.org [mailto:owner-ga-roots@dnso.org]On Behalf
>Of Patrick Corliss
>Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 7:50 AM
>To: NameCritic
>Cc: [ga-roots]
>Subject: [ga-roots] Jon Postel
>
>
>On Fri, 25 May 2001 04:10:16 -0700, William X. Walsh wrote:
>Subject: Re[4]: (Fwd) Re: [ga-roots] alternate roots considered harmful
>
> > Hello NameCritic,
> >
> > Friday, May 25, 2001, 3:41:28 AM, NameCritic wrote:
> >
> > >> You obviously do not know your domain history very well.
> >
> > > Or you do not William. Are you saying there was never a time when all
> > > you had to do was ask Jon Postel for a domain name to get one?
> >
> > A top level domain?  Yes, I am.
>
>http://www.cctec.com/maillists/nanog/historical/9603/msg00108.html
>Just a small quibble David:  when you say "the IANA" decided, it gives
>the impression that an august group of people like the IESG took action.
>In reality "the IANA" is but a SINGLE person - John Postel.  If some
>people are upset I suspect it might be because the power to make such a
>decision is vested in the hands of ONE person rather than in a group.
>
>http://www.tftb.com/ICANN.html
>That the system has worked as well as it has is largely a tribute to the
>work of one man, Dr. John Postel, the recently deceased director of the
>Internet Assigned Numbers Authority.
>
>http://www.u.arizona.edu/~wfoster/whogoverns.html
>InterNIC gets its authority to delegate both IP address and domain names
>from the Internet Assigned Number Authority (IANA). IANA, which is run by
>John Postel, has historically been responsible for unique parameters that
>are required by IETF protocols. Though IANA had given most countries the
>right to operate their own TLD and assign secondary domain names within it,
>the .com TLD has developed a cachet not only for United States businesses
>but for businesses all over the world.
>
>http://www.murdoch.edu.au/elaw/issues/v6n1/blakeney61_text.html
>The IANA also allocated the right to administer country code TLDs to local
>Network Information Centres (NICs) or to local corporations. For example the
><.co.uk>, <.ltd.uk>, <.plc.uk>, <.net.uk> and <.org.uk> domain names are
>administered by Nominet UK Limited (Nominet).
>
>http://www.isocnz.org.nz/international/cctld000728report-best-practice.html
>CENTR's view is that complete authority was transferred by John Postel to
>the local manager, and all issues, including re-delegation, are a matter for
>the local courts in the country associated with the ccTLDs.
>
>http://www.isocnz.org.nz/international/cctld000728report-best-practice.html
>Nominet (the manager of .uk) has taken US legal advice, which is to the
>effect that the UK registry has a contract with either the estate of John
>Postel, or his employer (effectively the University of Southern California).
>Nominet has not consented to any transfer of the benefits or obligations
>under that contract to ICANN, and does not recognise any ICANN authority
>over the UK registry.
>
>http://www.zakon.org/robert/internet/timeline/
>1988.  Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) established in December
>with Jon Postel as its Director. Postel was also the RFC Editor and US
>Domain registrar for many years.
>
>http://www.zakon.org/robert/internet/timeline/
>1989.  Countries connecting to NSFNET: Australia (AU), Germany (DE), Israel
>(IL), Italy (IT), Japan (JP), Mexico (MX), Netherlands (NL), New Zealand
>(NZ), Puerto Rico (PR), United Kingdom (UK)
>
>http://www.iiia.org/lists/newdom/1995q3/0239.html
>Actually, while the InterNIC processes the requests for the two-letter
>country code TLDs and does the interactions with the applicants, the
>IANA is in the loop on approving each one. So the ultimate approval of
>each (ISO-3166) two-letter country code TLD has always and continues to
>involve an approval step by the IANA.
>
>http://www.itu.int/newsarchive/press/releases/1998/PostelLegacy.html
>Few organizations have played as critical a role as the IANA. Unique numbers
>and unique names must be assigned and managed. The IANA has allocated
>Internet protocol addresses and maintained a registry of the unique values
>required for the Internet to work. This has been IANA's task from the very
>beginning.
>
>http://www.net99.org/presentations/Bernard_Turcotte/tsld002.htm
>The top level DNS system was under the administration of the Internet
>Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) and its director John Postel until late
>1998.  IANA administered the TLD system and the IP address system
>internationally without any formal authority.
>
>See http://www.auda.org.au/docs/letter-com.au.html
>com.au Letter of Authority
>15 November 1999
>
>.au Domain Administration
>255 Elizabeth Street
>Sydney NSW 2000
>
>Dear Sirs
>
>The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority ("IANA") has delegated to
>me the authority to manage the .au namespace.
>
>I hereby now delegate to you full authority to manage the .com.au
>namespace, which is a subset of the .au namespace (the "Domain").
>
><snip>
>
>In the event that I am succeeded as the delegated authority for
>the .au namespace, my successor shall assume all the rights and
>obligations accruing to me under my arrangement with IANA and
>this arrangement with you.
>
>I trust that you will administer the Domain in a fair and
>responsible manner.
>
>Yours sincerely
>Robert Elz
>
>
>Regards
>Patrick Corliss
>
>
>
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Best Regards,

Simon Higgs

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