Re: [ga-roots] Briefing Paper {correction}

[Eric Dierker <eric@hi-tek.com>]

Dang I hate having to make a correction, what I meant in this earlier message was
meant to be a complete opinion as far as non-profit is concerned.  What I said in my
mind and failed to get on to my post was that I thought for the most part the owners
of the true and only .biz handled it in a non-profit way for the good of
internetstakeholder, even though they are a profit.
Maybe I made that mistake on purpose, unconsciencely so that I could point out again
that ICANN calls itself a non-profit but runs itself like a bad Movie cut out of a
crime family.

No insult meant to crime families!

Eric Dierker wrote:

> This really hurts,
>
> eminant domain in any country is ugly, farmer John loses his home where all his
> children and their children grew up.  The same is true here in my mind, remember
> our Leah's org is non-profit and she really really believes in the cause.  It is
> her sincerity and passion that sold me on ignoring some problems with the TLDA
> in order to focus on the positive.
>
> OTOH it is that same logic that allowed us to follow this Postal legacy, great
> idea until he died and his good intentions with him. Now we see every document
> he wrote or had a hand in bastardized to a point of down right pronography in
> its foulness. Makes you want to write a good will.  So we have to be very
> careful with these roots based upon the personalities running them.  The people
> I stand behind but the possibility of abuse is as real as it is realized in
> ICANN.
>
> OTOH obviously your points are not out of line and in fact very in line with
> existing law every where. Most certainly if things continue on their present
> course .biz and all occupants deserve a very reasonable compenstation.
>
> for a comedian your pretty smart!! but I guess that is generally true.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> NameCritic wrote:
>
> > Ok, you are all used to some strange ideas presented by me so this should
> > not be a shocker. Just a thought for others to maybe build an idea out of.
> >
> > When the government builds a highway they secure the right of way from land
> > owners to do so. The land owner is paid and there are rules to decide how
> > that figure is arrived at.
> >
> > Is there a possible model here for something ICANN could do when creating a
> > new gTLD that is the same as an existing one in another root to secure the
> > right of way per say? Some compensation to the tld owner for not allowing
> > the colliders to exist but giving ICANN the authority to select tlds they
> > deem viable?
> >
> > Don't go off on me here. I believe that the roots should be all inclusive
> > still, however there could be alternatives that are being overlooked and
> > this may lead to one of them. To just introduce the new tlds with NO
> > consideration to previous tld operators seems the wrong approach, and it
> > doesn't seem they are going to recognize the need to include other roots at
> > this time, why not a compromise where say Leah receives a set amount plus
> > royalties for ICANN obtaining the right of way.
> >
> > IMHO the $50,000 ICANN charged for the application fee is a reasonable
> > amount for the right of way plus the operator of the new tld paying a
> > royalty per domain name filed.
> >
> > Now if that means tlds that have been in operation for a certain amount of
> > time or grandfathering in ones that exist to date for this compromise I'll
> > leave to you techies to work on.
> >
> > But keep in mind if you shoot for the whole ball of wax you aren't likely to
> > get it and if ICANN refuses to do anything at all about this then it will
> > cause them problems. A compromise has the chance of being implemented.
> >
>
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