Re: Re[4]: [ga-roots] Jon Postel

["NameCritic" <watch-dog@inreach.com>]

Chris McElroy aka NameCritic

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From: "Milton Mueller" <mueller@syr.edu>
To: <ga-roots@dnso.org>
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: Re[4]: [ga-roots] Jon Postel


> I've forgotten why we're discussing this.
> However, the facts are that the NSF letter
> was a response to the PGMedia antitrust lawsuit,
> which forced everyone's hand regarding who had
> the authority to add new TLDs.
>
> NSI tried to pin the authority on Jon, Jon
> demurred to the "Internet community consensus,"
> NSF was forced to accept resposibility as the
> contractor for NSI under the InterNIC cooperative
> agreement.
>
> Before that (1997), there was a great deal of ambiguity. Postel and the
ARPA-Internet community created the first batch of TLDs around 1984,under
> US military contracts. But there was no charging
> for domain names and no commercial use of the Internet
> so issues of property rights were simply not defined.
> Probably the US military had the strongest claim
> to ultimate root authority, but between 1991-93
> it yielded that authority (again, ambiguously) to
> the civilian agencies, and once it became
> internationalized and civilianized it was difficult
> for the military to assert any claim.

Well that rules out the air strike. Now how do we get ICANN to make
effective changes without one?

>
> >>> "William X. Walsh" <william@userfriendly.com> 05/25/01 12:52 PM >>>
> Hello Josh,
>
> Friday, May 25, 2001, 9:38:16 AM, Josh Elliott wrote:
>
> > Which does not mean IANA did not have the authority...it meant that NSI
> > refused to recognize IANA's authority in anything other than ccTLDs.  At
a
> > later date, NSI refused to recognize IANA's authority for anything in
the
> > root without, including routine changes to nameserver information.  Was
that
> > due to NSF refusing to recognize IANA's authority as well?  Think
> > again...that was simply a blatant refusal by NSI.
>
> > IANA's contractual obligation which is found in a number of
> > NSF/ARPA/Research contracts does not limit IANA's authority to ccTLDs or
> > specifically describe its authority over gTLDs.  n other words, you nor
I
> > will ever be certain whether IANA had any authority other than the
defacto
> > support of the vast majority of the Internet community for nearly 30
years.
>
> One would think that the NSF letter is a definitive answer to this
> question, Josh.
>
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