[ga-abuse] Re: [ga] Re: Byfield on GA Reform / comments

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Thomas,

  Sure.  However my comments were not "Rants" I must asy I resent
the implication...

Thomas Roessler wrote:

> Jeff: May I suggest that you move your rants about general computer
> security topics elsewhere?  While there's certainly much to be said
> about the pros and contras of X.509 and PGP based PKIs, that's none
> of the GA's business.
>
> --
> Thomas Roessler                        http://log.does-not-exist.org/
>
> On 2002-09-09 23:45:27 -0700, Jeff Williams wrote:
> >Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 23:45:27 -0700
> >From: Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>
> >Organization: INEGroup Spokesman
> >To: "eric@hi-tek.com" <eric@hi-tek.com>
> >Cc: "kent@songbird.com" <kent@songbird.com>, ga@dnso.org,
> >       "Harald@alvestrand.no" <Harald@Alvestrand.no>,
> >       Don Evans <DEvans@doc.gov>, cathy Handley <chandley@ntia.doc.gov>,
> >       "Nancy J. Victory" <nvictory@ntia.doc.gov>
> >Subject: Re: [ga] Re: Byfield on GA Reform / comments
> >
> >Eric, Kent and all assembly members,
> >
> >  Indeed!  This sort of response from Kent towards Karls well
> >reasoned post is par for the course, as they say from Kent.
> >His long standing utter contempt for Karl, a ICANN BOD member,
> >is something that shows where the ICANN staff really stands
> >with some BoD members that are not in agreement with them.
> >
> >  If such a staff member in my company made such a remark
> >towards a BoD member, he would be seeking employment
> >elsewhere rather quickly, regardless of his status as a staff member.
> >
> >  As a so called expert in security, Kent is well known for
> >believing the PKI is so much garbage.  I have sense found
> >his so called expertise very questionable at best as a result
> >of this attitude/opinion of his. I believe many in the security
> >software industry are in agreement with me here that have
> >read Kent's rantings on PKI in the past...
> >
> > Than again Harold Alverstand has been a PGP bigot or
> >was at one time (Documented on this very GA list BTW)
> >and he is the IAB Chair no less!  See: http://www.iab.org/members.html
> >I think and hope that both Kent and Harald will be attending
> >the Sans conference here: http://www.sans.org/KansasCity/track1.php
> >so that they can really learn something...
> >
> >  Given Kent and Haralds past statements regarding Internet or
> >cybersecurity makes me wonder and/or be very negatively
> >concerned as to how up to snuff they really are and if they
> >have been following any of the following URL's from this link:
> >http://news.ists.dartmouth.edu/todaysnews.html#internal6767
> >Unless I miss my guess, they have not...  For instance in a
> >letter/e-mail from Richard Clark, the presidents cybersecurity
> >czar I received the following comment:
> >
> >"Jeff, Thank you for keeping me abreast of your concerns and ideas
> >concerning Internet security issues concerns.  I share many of them
> >with you.  I am very concerned that ICANN is up to the task and   "
> >
> >
> >eric@hi-tek.com wrote:
> >
> >> Now this here is exactly what our staff should be writing.
> >> What an intelligent assinign pig.
> >> Oh i'm sorry, I forgot this idiot is in charge of security.
> >>
> >> What a shame!
> >> e
> >>
> >> kent@songbird.com wrote:
> >>
> >> > By all means.  Set up your own mailing list, outside the control of
> >> > ICANN -- you can hold your votes on it.  Since you claim that the GA is
> >> > powerless, and also since, according to you, the only thing that matters
> >> > is power anyway, I don't see why you remain subscribed to the GA list at
> >> > all -- seems like according to your own standards, it's just a waste of
> >> > time.  :-)
> >> >
> >> > Kent
> >>
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Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
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