[ga-abuse] [eric@hi-tek.com: Re: [ga] Registrars Selling Dropped Domain Name Lists]

[Kent Crispin <kent@songbird.com>]

I wish to register a complaint about the attached message.  Phrases 
like "criminally a misrepresentation at least", "you blather on", 
"tantamount to complicity" etc cannot be construed as anything other 
than personal attack.  

----- Forwarded message from Eric Dierker <eric@hi-tek.com> -----

To: William X Walsh <william@userfriendly.com>
CC: Andy Gardner <andy@navigator.co.nz>, ga@dnso.org
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 20:48:14 -0700
From: Eric Dierker <eric@hi-tek.com>
Subject: Re: [ga] Registrars Selling Dropped Domain Name Lists

Mr. walsh,

Do you just want to argue for no reason?  Your position here is untenable at best
and down right criminally a misrepresentation at least.  Your second paragraph
below is a representation without fact and damaging to those who need the truth.
Denying the capture of expiring domain names by the registrars and Verisign is
tantamount to complicity.  You say "the only way it would work is if," Good god
man it is happening are you blind?  You blather on about matters that are not true
and you mislead dotcommoners into thinking the situation is all right.  Be daft on
your own but do not use your high knowledge to mislead those without into thinking
that all is well.

By the way give my best to your family and I hope all are well.

Sincerely,
Eric

William X Walsh wrote:

>
> Except that the system doesn't work that way.  The domains are already
> expired, and set for deletion 45 days later.  The domains in question
> can't be transferred, since they have a registry lock on them until
> they are deleted and made available for reregistration.
>
> The only way it would work, is if the registrants are co-operating and
> have designated their registration provider (who is not a registrar,
> but a reseller, and thus not subject to all of the rules) as an agent
> to sell the domain names, and agrees to transfer of the domain name
> when their reseller pays for an additional year on the domain to
> unlock it and open it up for transfer.  I had a client myself who gave
> me a list of domains that he was not renewing, and basically said if I
> know anyone who wants them, he would approve their transfer.  He
> wanted $5 out of the transaction, we offered the names for $19
> including the one year renewal of the domain.  There is nothing
> inappropriate or bad about doing that.
>
> Like I said, it all comes down to the relationship between the
> registrant and the reseller.
>
> As for Dotster (the one that is in fact a registrar), all of the names
> they are offering are registry deletes.

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