Re: [ga-abuse] M1 and M2: Eric Dierker; suspension Monday

[Bruce James <bmj@keyname.net>]

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I agree.

Thanks,
/Bruce

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From: "Alexander Svensson" <svensson@icannchannel.de>
To: <ga-abuse@dnso.org>; <DNSO.Secretariat@dnso.org>
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 11:45
Subject: [ga-abuse] M1 and M2: Eric Dierker; suspension Monday



Dear fellow list monitors,

here are three complaints where M1 and M2 recommend
a suspension of Eric Dierker for four weeks. Unless
someone objects now, I will ask Elisabeth from DNSO
Secretariat to set up a filter for eric@hi-tek.com
for GA and GA specific purposes lists on *Monday*,
and I will post a note about it to ga@dnso.org and
ga-abuse@dnso.org on Monday.

The suspension would then be lifted on Monday, 16 July 2001.

Best regards,
/// Alexander


Complainant: Kent Crispin
M1: Kristy McKee
M2: Alexander Svensson
Message: http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02563.html
Grounds: Personal attack and insult ("you and your ICANN
STAFF cronies can go stuff it.")
Recommendation: Suspension

Complainant: Patrick Corliss
M1: Bruce James
M2: Alexander Svensson
Message: http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02077.html
Grounds: Insults and personal attack ("you bad ass
intellectuals mess with our lives"; "Corliss lied
about his intentions and is glorified")
Recommendation: Suspension

Complainant: Thomas Roessler
M1: Bruce James
M2: Alexander Svensson
Messages:
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02551.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02552.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02556.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02563.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02571.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02574.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02577.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02580.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02588.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02589.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02604.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02605.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02622.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02623.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02625.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02626.html
Grounds: Posting limits not respected (on two days)
Recommendation: Suspension

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There was a fourth complaint which I as M2 don't think would
warrant a suspension on its own, but this is only academic,
considering the three other cases.
 Complainant: Patrick Corliss
 M1: Bruce James
 M2: Alexander Svensson
 Message: http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02580.html
 Grounds: Personal Attack, Insults and Slander
 Recommendation: Bruce James: suspension; Alexander Svensson:
 warning.

Finally, there was a fifth complaint about Eric without M1 yet.
 Complainant: Patrick Corliss
 M1: Alexander Svensson
 Message: http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga-roots/Arc00/msg00754.html
I would recommend a suspension because of the threats ("start
getting that straight or I will no longer act in such a
gentlemanly manner") and offensive words ("you are pissing me
and my dot commoner friends off"), but I assume Eric will be
suspended anyway, so no additional action is required.

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Proposed suspension message:

The list monitors have decided to suspend Eric Dierker's
posting rights for four weeks, beginning today (Monday,
18 June) until Monday, 16 July.

We have received several complaints about postings by
Eric Dierker; our decision is based on the personal attacks
and insults in
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02563.html and
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02077.html as well
as the breach of the posting limit on two successive days:
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02551.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02552.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02556.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02563.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02571.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02574.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02577.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02580.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02588.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02589.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02604.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02605.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02622.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02623.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02625.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02626.html

The GA posting rules are laid down in
http://www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-ga-rules.html:

- - The messages must be relevant to the business of the GA
- - The messages must observe a minimum of decorum, including:
  - Not indulging in personal attacks, insults or slander
  - Not using offensive language
- - If the GA Chair or a list monitor asks for a limit to the number
  of posts per person per day, this must be respected
- - The size of messages should be kept reasonable (there should be
  a VERY good reason to send a message of more than 10 Kbytes).

The time of the suspension has been doubled since Eric
Dierker has already received a two week suspension in May.
This decision may be appealed to the GA Chair.

Best regards,
/// Alexander (for the list monitors)

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