[ga-abuse] Complaint Against William X. Walsh

["Patrick Corliss" <patrick@quad.net.au>]

Complaint Against Wiulliam X. Walsh
Grounds:  Personal Attack, Insults and Slander
"since I am in effect being called a liar by Patrick"

I did not say what William X. Walsh alleges i.e. that he is "a liar".  His
words "in effect" show that it is an unwarranted interpretation.

Please note that such attacks can, with reasonable effort, be worded in a
way that doesn't cross over into a direct insult.  Politicians do this all
the time.  William is no less capable of turning attacks into appropriate
criticism.  Leaving out that phrase would still have been fairly damming.

It is also interesting that William deliberately provoked the whole thing in
the first place with his private taunts.  My response was rather
tongue-in-cheek.

Regards
Patrick Corliss


----- Original Message -----
From: William X. Walsh <william@userfriendly.com>
To: Patrick Corliss <patrick@quad.net.au>
Cc: [ga-abuse] <ga-abuse@dnso.org>; [ga] <ga@dnso.org>
Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 05:16:37 -0700
Subject: Re[3]: [ga] Mailing List Abuse


>
> In the quote section I meant to also include this statement from his
> email:
>
> "I'm more than happy to use my personal name except when it really is an
> "official" posting if you and the other naysayers, Eric and Jeff (good
> company you are in!!) agree to discount repostings when criticising me for
> exceeding my posting limit."
>
> Thus recognizing that those posts were not in fact official and that
> he only reason for using the title was to attempt to circumvent rules
> that everyone else must follow.  I stand by what I said as a factual
> and ontopic criticism of the behaviors, statements, and actions of
> this "Elected" official of the GA.
>
> The full email will be made available to anyone who asks, since I am
> in effect being called a liar by Patrick who is claiming that my
> factual accounting of his actions is instead a baseless personal
> attack.
>
> Or better yet, I'll put it on the web.
>
> http://www.userfriendly.com/email/corliss1.txt
>
> Headers are intact.
>
>
> Sunday, May 27, 2001, 5:11:27 AM, William X. Walsh wrote:
>
> > Hello Patrick,
>
> > Sunday, May 27, 2001, 4:56:11 AM, Patrick Corliss wrote:
>
> >> Complaint Against William X. Walsh
> >> Grounds: Personal Attack, Insults and Slander
> >> That I abuse my position as Alternate Chair.
> >> "Let's not say that the process is fair, at least not with you involved
in
> >> it."
>
> >> I will not attempt to defend myself against personal attacks any
further.  I
> >> simply note that Mr Walsh has slandered me in the following post.  Mr
Walsh
> >> is free to submit a complaint should I exceed the cross-posting limit
(with
> >> or without the titles).
>
> > Did you, or did you not, tell me that you were using the method of
> > using the "List Admin" name to get around complaints about posting
> > limits by making those posts look like "official posts" ?
>
> > I'll save you the trouble of answering.  From an email (of which I
> > will be willing to provide the ENTIRE text to any member who asks)
> > from you to me this week:
>
> > ===========
> > Wednesday, May 23, 2001, 3:51:59 PM, Patrick Corliss wrote:
> > "The only reason I use the title is because I think it important to
> > re-post things like public announcements or relevant mail from other
> > lists."
>
> > "If I use the title I can argue that it was an "official" posting."
> > ===========
>
> >> With 35 posts allowed per person per day, and very many outside lists
> >> available for cross-posting, I would appreciate hearing from any person
who
> >> is in favour of allowing unrestrained cross-posting across any or all
lists.
>
> > No one said that.  What WAS said was that your post stating that this
> > was against the rules was NOT in fact true.  And you do not have the
> > right to MAKE such a rule by yourself.
>
> > I am stating facts, and in fact making a public complaint about our
> > "elected official."  As such it was not a personal attack.
>
> > As an elected official, you do not have the right to assert "personal
> > attack" in response to criticisms of you and your actions in your
> > "official role."
>
> > This is just further evidence of your intent to act in bad faith by
> > using the abuse process to claim personal attacks when called to
> > answer for your own statements and actions.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> William X Walsh
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