[ga-abuse] Re: Warning from the list monitors to Dave Crocker

[Dave Crocker <dhc2@dcrocker.net>]

At 01:00 PM 5/8/2001, Kristy McKee wrote:
>Dave, we disagree.
>
>The list monitors recognize you broke the rules.

At the time, there were no rules.  For rules to be meaningful, they need to 
be enforced.

A state of complete anarchy was present on the list.  Hence you are 
penalizing me for having defended myself, when the designated authorities 
were not doing their job.


>I am sorry this upsets you.   You have received warnings before and were 
>nearly suspended

You are referring to my previous warning for some reason.  Perhaps you 
believe that the previous warning renders my opinions and position somehow 
less relevant or meaningful?

Yet you seem to make no similar differentiation for participants who hold 
special position.

Were any of the participants in the ga-abuse deliberations accused of 
having violating the rules?  If so, then they had a conflict of interest 
and should not have participated in the ga-buse discussions.


>  - so what's your real beef - do you just want to pick on me?

Careful, Kristy.  You initiated this exchange.  I have merely been 
responding.

In fact, you have mostly ignored the very specific points I have been making.

That suggests that YOU are picking on ME.

d/


>~k
>
>At 11:01 AM 5/8/2001 -0700, Dave Crocker wrote:
>>Kristy,
>>
>>Because you are acting in an official capacity, these exchanges need to 
>>be accountable.  That is why I am cc'ing ga-abuse, as should you.
>>
>>At 12:43 PM 5/8/2001, Kristy McKee wrote:
>>>Would you jump off a bridge just because someone whom you disagree with 
>>>is jumping off the same bridge?
>>
>>If you are going to attempt an analogy, make it one that fits the 
>>circumstances.
>>
>>If someone is repeatedly striking you with their fists, would you refuse 
>>to defend yourself?
>>
>>The answer, of course, is that pacifism is an established and honored 
>>perspective and that some people, in fact, would NOT defend themselves.
>>
>>However we do not penalize those who DO defend themselves.
>>
>>
>>>We are asking you to follow those rules you agreed to before you signed 
>>>up to participate...
>>
>>
>>A formal warning is not simply a request to follow the rules.
>>
>>d/
>>
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