[ga-abuse] Going to Sleep

["Patrick Corliss" <patrick@corliss.net>]

Hi Elisabeth

It's 7:00 am now and I've been up all night.
I've posted the Notice and am going to sleep.

Jeff's posting to [ga-tm] bounced (see below)
= just as he was calling for a motion.

G'night
Patrick

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From: Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>
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Eric, Patrick and all,

  First let me say that I believe that this subject does belong on the ga-tm
ML.  Patricks request seems to be less than appropriate to grant given
the subject matter involved.

  Secondly, it is in our members opinion, and has been for some time now
the a DNO Bill of Rights is an excellent idea to balance TM interests with
those of DN holders that are not registered TM's and the current inane
UDRP practices of some note.  The reasons  for our position have been
articulated on a number of occasions on various ML forums and are well
known.
Rehashing these arguments is not likely to change anyone's position
presently.
Therefore it would seem that a motion to vote on this issue is in order.
Do I have a second?

Eric Dierker wrote:

> With all due intent on cooperation;  There is a debate maxim that states;
He
> who defines the issue wins.
> By placing this discussion within the Registry(Verisgn) Registrar's grasp
you
> take away the most important reason for putting it in place as a check
against
> the overbaring TM lobby.  Registrars are specifically exempt from
liability in
> TM claims and maintain this by avoiding action with regard to such
matters, an
> interesting change will take place with the new "sunrise crapola", but for
now
> their involvment with a bill of rights will change the landscape.  A Bill
of
> Rights is specifically a DH versus a TMH issue.
>
> I must say that I am not completely confident this is the case but it
should be
> addressed before just being assumed one way or the other.
>
> IMHO,
>
> "Co-Chair, DNSO GA" wrote:
>
> > The proposed agenda of [ga-sys] includes a section on
"Registry-Registrar
> > Operations" in which the most relevant issue is a domain name holder's
> > "Charter" or "Bill of Rights".  As the Registrar constituency is also
> > debating the topic, it is scheduled for inclusion in the General
Assembly
> > agenda for Stockholm.
> >
> > This issue was first raised on the [ga] list then accidentally taken to
the
> > [ga-tm] list.  I would ask that this topic please be debated in
[ga-sys].
> >
> > For ease of reference I have shown a few relevant postings here:
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga-sys/Arc00/msg00003.html
> >
> > Regards
> > Patrick Corliss
> > Co-Chair, GA
> >
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Regards,

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