RE: [ga-abuse] Complaint Against Jeff Williams

[R.Gaetano@iaea.org]

Patrick,
Jeff Williams is already suspended.
This post was not in the GA list, only in ga_full (which is unmonitored), or
received by cc + bcc addressees.
Roberto

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Patrick Corliss [mailto:patrick@quad.net.au]
> Sent: Thursday, 19 April 2001 6:24
> To: [ga-abuse]
> Subject: [ga-abuse] Complaint Against Jeff Williams
> 
> 
> List Monitors
> 
> Complaint Against Jeff Williams
> Grounds:  Personal Attack, Insults and Slander
> (a)    That I made false allegations to William, Jeff, Erick 
> and others
> (b)    That these allegation were made privately as a cover-up
> (c)    That my behaviour is detrimental to my position as co-chair
> (d)    That I am not a person who wishes to get some REAL work done
> (e)    That I am not a person who wants to see some normalcy 
> on the lists
> (f)    That as Co-Chair I am disrupting others in a prejudice manner
> 
> I would add that these are serious slanders which are very 
> likely actionable
> under the law.  There is very little defence even in the 
> American system.  They
> are not "fair comment" because there is no justification.
> 
> Best regards
> Patrick Corliss
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>
> To: <jandl@jandl.com>
> Cc: Danny Younger <webmaster@babybows.com>; <ga@dnso.org>; 
> Patrick Corliss
> <patrick@quad.net.au>
> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 3:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [ga] List Monitors
> 
> 
> > Leah and all remaining assembly members,
> >
> > JandL wrote:
> >
> > > For the past few days, my inbox has been inundated with list
> > > protocol and suspension...  Quite frankly I have better 
> things to do
> > > with my time than to read these messages.  There is work to be
> > > done.
> >
> >   Indeed there is allot of work to be done.  But until 
> there is an open
> > forum and addressing these pesky little details with respect to the
> > Co-Chair and Erick's concerns as well as others, any work that
> > begins on any other WG will be disrupted by carry over from
> > these ongoing situations.  Surely everyone can see that clearly???
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > In terms of Mr. Corliss taking action, I can certainly understand
> > > wanting to bring this list back to some measure of decorum and
> > > relevant subject matter.  It is regrettable to see that those who
> > > opposed a person's individual affiliations are now on the 
> attack to
> > > remove him.  All I have seen are excessive posts from those people
> > > with nothing constructive to offer wrt to issues facing the GA.
> >
> >   The issue is not that simple Leah.  But in part it is 
> related.  Patrick
> > has privately made a false accusation to William, myself, Erick, and
> > others that he has been called on.  In his new position as co-chair
> > this sort of behavior is detrimental to all whom wish to get some
> > REAL work done and see some normalcy on this and any new
> > WG lists that may be created.
> >
> >   So these issues must be addressed post haste.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Might we forego these attempts to disrupt the list and get back to
> > > the issues most important to the Internet and the GA in 
> particular?
> > > Attempting to undermine the Chair and Co-Chair's efforts are not
> > > going to help this body.
> >
> >   This is a matter of opinion to and extent.  If the 
> co-chair is to be
> > allowed
> > to disrupt others in a prejudice manner, than it is a most 
> serious problem.
> > It should and I contend must, be addressed post haste.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Can we please see the WG lists established so that we can WORK?
> >
> >   I hope so.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Leah
> > >
> > > > Dear Mr. Younger;
> > > >
> > > > This post is a fine example of the problems with the 
> rules in place.
> > > > Your first citation leads us to the rules you have 
> cited very nicely.
> > > > Upon reviewing these rules one finds all in order 
> except that there is
> > > > no mechanism to obtain a vote of the GA for the removal 
> of a monitor.
> > > > It also does not state what type of majority vote. So I 
> guess we can
> > > > assume that I may call for a vote right now to remove 
> Mr. Corliss as a
> > > > list monitor, due to obvious conflict of interest, and 
> if 11 of us
> > > > vote and 6 say remove he will be removed.  IN CASE 
> THERE IS CONFUSION
> > > > I NOW CALL FOR THAT VOTE.
> > > >
> > > > Sincerely,
> > > >
> > > > Danny Younger wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > "Certain persons appointed by the GA Chair (the list 
> monitors) have
> > > > > the task of monitoring the list for posts that 
> violate these rules.
> > > > > These are selected by the GA Chair for a given period 
> of time, but
> > > > > may be removed from the role by the GA Chair or at 
> their own request
> > > > > at any time. A list monitor may also be removed by a 
> majority vote
> > > > > of the General Assembly.  Normally the appointment 
> would be for 1
> > > > > year." http://www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-ga-rules.html
> > > > >
> > > > > In response to a call for volunteers to serve as List 
> Monitors,
> > > > > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg00870.html 
> I have been
> > > > > advised of expressions of interest put forth by Bruce 
> James, Kristy
> > > > > McKee, Alexander Svensson, Patrick Corliss, and Harald Tveit
> > > > > Alvestrand.  Accordingly, I now appoint these 
> individuals to a one
> > > > > year term as Monitors of the GA List.
> > > > >
> > > > > Danny Younger
> > > > > GA Chair
> > > > >
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> > Regards,
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> > --
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