[ga-abuse] Re: [ga] remote participation

[Joe Kelsey <joe@zircon.seattle.wa.us>]

Jeff Williams writes:
 > Joe, Harald and all remaining assembly members,
 > 
 >   The civil rules of discourse for this forum require that action be taken
 > with respect to Joe Kelsey's comments below as they are a general
 > attack on person or persons that are stakeholders.  Please consider this
 > a formal complaint.  Thank you.

Nowhere in my message did I attack anyone, let alone either Jeff or his
so-called organization.  Jeff is clearly abusing the mailing list by
cc'ing inappropriately, and also inappropriately directing a complaint
to the mailing list as a whole.  He clearly does not understand the
rules about CC: and also fails to understand the sentences that I wrote
below.

/Joe

 > Joe Kelsey wrote:
 > 
 > > Jeff Williams writes:
 > >  > Dave Crocker wrote:
 > >  > > This is exactly the IETF model.  It has worked well for 12 years, and
 > >  > > through massive increases in participation.
 > >  >
 > >  >   Yes, but as we have seen over the past 2 years the IETF model is breaking
 > >  > down and in some specific situations has broken down.  Changed is both
 > >  > needed and underway.
 > >
 > > The only breakdown that has occurred is the presence of people who have
 > > no stake, either personally or professionally in seeing the process
 > > work.  I refer to the well-known personas who inhabit this list and who
 > > do nothing EXCEPT try to impede progress.  If you are a true
 > > stakeholder, then you have nothing to fear from either a face-to-face
 > > meeting OR from list participation.  If, on the other hand, you simply
 > > wish to inflate your own lack of experience or overabundance of ego, you
 > > can do as those on this list who prefer to beat a subject to death with
 > > inane and off-topic responses, simply to see their own (made-up?) name
 > > on a world-wide mailing list.
 > >
 > > Face-to-face meetings are a *requirement* of the IETF model, just as
 > > *civil* behavior on the mailing list is also a requirement.  Some
 > > members of this list do not seem to grasp either concept.
 > >
 > > /Joe
 > 
 > Regards,
 > 
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