[ga-abuse] RE: Re[3]: [ga] Reform in the GA?

[Jefsey Morfin <jefsey@wanadoo.fr>]

I strongly oppose to that abuse by Andy Gardner.

Andy Gardner together with Dassa and WXW have killed the IDNO-discuss
list by this kind of practice during the last week and obviously want to
pursue on the DNSO/GA. Action should be immediately undertaken before
this become an ML destructive practice.

Jefsey Morfin


On 20:36 11/02/01, Andy Gardner said:
>At 6:00 pm +1300 2/10/01, Joop Teernstra wrote:
> >At 10:48 10/02/01 +1100, Dassa wrote:
> >
> >>Mistakes made on one forum and repeated elsewhere are relevant to all.
> >>
> >
> >Possibly. There are a number of lessons to be learnt from the IDNO
> >experiment in open democracy and I am certainly one who is learning them.
>
>Evidence suggests that you have not learnt a single thing.
>
> >One is that constant personal abuse drives all serious participants off and
> >leaves only those who, in the words of Alan McCluskey
>
>For an example of personal abuse within the IDNO (In fact, possibly the
>very first incident), one only needs to read the following email sent by
>Joop to selected members of the IDNO (included quotes snipped for brevity).
>Note the date it was sent:
>
>****
>
>X-Sender: ter/terastra@pop.clear.net.nz
>Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 20:52:32 +1200
>To: Chris Streatfield <CStreatfield@compuserve.com>, dinesh@alphaque.com
>From: Joop Teernstra <terastra@terabytz.co.nz>
>Subject: The new Leader Speaks..
>Cc: karl@cavebear.com, mikes@sttiowa.com, andy@navigator.co.nz,
>         jabley@patho.gen.nz
>
>Listen to this:
>The new dictator  elected by himself  with the support of only 2 people out
>of 10 voters of the SC gets ready to lay down the rules.
>Listen to the protest against the "illegal" ballot.  I have heard that one
>before, when martial  law  was declared by Marcos.
>
>Wait for him to order suppression of the SC election results (which show me
>as getting 67% of the vote) on the IDNO webpage and control of the Polling
>Booth.
>This is quite unbelievable.
>
><attributions snipped>
>
>Heil Fuehrer Bradley. Instructions. Transfer of power. Jawohl.
>It is urgent that the provisions for snap elections are ratified a.s.a.p.
>so that this coup can be stopped.
>
>****
>
>
>I am not in the habit of posting personal email, but this can hardly be
>seen as such (bootstrap of an orgnisation e-mailing committee members,
>abusing another committee member). Note the the ICANN board now has
>personal knowledge of Joop's modus operandi.
>
>There is also evidence already made public (innocently, it seems, by a
>third party) of Joop emailing new and potential members, casting aspersions
>on other IDNO members (all members of the original Steering Committee that
>he crushed).
>
>For an example of Joop's attempts to pull the wool over the eyes of ICANN,
>the DNSO and NC, within his "experiment in open democracy", GA members
>should check out http://joy.songbird.com/kent/idno/steering/msg00067.html
>
>The sentence to look out for is "It has helped us politically, but this is
>the price we paid for the optical illusion of my "standing down".
>
>Joop is by no means "squeaky clean" as far as responsibility of the mess
>the IDNO is now in. I suggest GA members keep this in mind when they
>evaluate Joop's posts to this list, and anything he says while appearing at
>any ICANN-related meeting, claiming to speak for the IDNO (rapidly
>declining, unfortunately) membership.
>
>
>
>--
>Andrew P. Gardner
>barcelona.com stolen, stmoritz.com stays. What's uniform about the UDRP?
>We could ask ICANN to send WIPO a clue, but do they have any to spare?
>Get active: http://www.domain-owners.org http://www.tldlobby.com
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